Here’s Why PS5 Joysticks Drift (and Why They’ll Only Get Worse)

19 feb 2021
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Mere months have passed since the PS5’s hotly anticipated launch, and already there’s a class-action lawsuit brewing over joystick drift on Sony’s high-tech DualSense controllers. Who could have seen this coming? Well, as it turns out, everyone. Everyone should have seen this coming. Because for all its exciting new tech, the DualSense uses off-the-shelf joystick hardware with a long history of predictable, preventable issues. And now we’ve investigated those issues in excruciating detail.
Sony isn’t the only company to use off-the-shelf joystick modules, but, like Microsoft, they’ve made it difficult to repair this consumable component. Joysticks have a known life expectancy-it’s listed right in a product sheet from the manufacturer. In this video, we head back inside a DualSense controller to see what is failing, and how.
You can read more about joystick drift in our blog post on iFixit.com:
www.ifixit.com/News/48944/heres-why-ps5-joysticks-drift-and-why-theyll-only-get-worse
Links to other videos we reference in this video:
XQGaming: How to Repair Xbox One Analog Stick Input
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My Mate VINCE: Xbox One Controller - Trying different ways to FIX Stick Drift
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SOSS GAMING: How to Replace Xbox One Controller Analog Joystick - Fix Stick Drift & More
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SOSS GAMING: How to Replace Xbox One Controller Analog Joystick - NEW METHOD [...]
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CYBER DIVER: 【SCUF/PS4コントローラー】【修理/分解】 勝手に動くスティックを新品に交換して修理する方法
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  • A few notes: We started this investigation due to reports of PS5 DualSense controllers drifting, but as we mention at 0:58, these findings apply to most modern joysticks! 3:14 that carbon pad has been scratched with a dental pick. The actual wear to the pads will look different, this was a demonstration since we didn't have a drifting DualSense. 3:50 sprinkling goldfish crackers into your joystick will not fix drift. Don't try this at home. Don't miss Margot the puppy desperately trying to eat Cheez-Its at 5:47

    iFixitiFixit10 giorni fa
    • @jub8891 They're just focusing on Sony so internet nerds can direct their irrational rage at someone.

      jbulmerjbulmer9 ore fa
    • @Etrigan Slaves to be fair. 1st generation xbox (im talking xbox classic) always had a broken right trigger problem

      ArtimennerArtimenner12 ore fa
    • What kind of dog is Margot at the end?

      Marcos MendozaMarcos MendozaGiorno fa
    • @Michael Ownage It depends on if the air manages to reach the sensor and if the reason for the drift was dirt on the sensor. If the air cannot reach the sensor and if the reason for the drift was not dirt then it won't work.

      Kaiser SoymilkKaiser Soymilk2 giorni fa
    • I've had mine since it came out and there just starting the Drift so if I clean it with a can of air will that work

      Michael OwnageMichael Ownage2 giorni fa
  • See here, all joysticks can have this issue. Sadly the video only notes how to repair it not how to fix it. Because repairing it only works until it starts drifting again.

    Sander EversSander Evers22 minuti fa
  • People in the comments with revisionist history thinking old tech controllers were immaculate as if we all didn’t go through multiple controllers with previous generations.

    Yung_GrouchYung_GrouchOra fa
  • The People that paid twice as much for a PS5 from a scalper? LOL!

    mrk107mrk1072 ore fa
  • yet another reason why PC is better. If your current controller is bad just buy different type. Do not want to be stuck with one faulty controller type.

    NlGACHUNlGACHU2 ore fa
  • Oh it's broken? BUY A NEW ONE MOOOORRRRTTTTYYYYYY!!!!!! Just another sign that they don't actually care about their customers...

    Agata SodaAgata Soda3 ore fa
  • The DualShock was and is a perfect controller. Why do think everyone is trying to buy a DualShock now? Go into any department store and see if any of them are available. If the DualSense controller is so amazing, why are gamers scrambling to buy the DualShock controllers?

    mattrenkomattrenko3 ore fa
  • Ooooorrrrr they can make a better controller. We should also demand to see the interiors of the console and controller theyre showing off the tits of these new systems. I'm looking at this video and the board of the controller looks pathetic and fragile.

    Lawrenzo GreenLawrenzo Green4 ore fa
  • Bruh just an excellent video.

    Dylan NanceDylan Nance4 ore fa
  • Mine is just fine

    TheOnly LeftiiTheOnly Leftii4 ore fa
  • I guess its easier to wait for them to release a 'revision' than to have it replaced or buy a new one. I don't know if I read it correctly, I think I read an article saying you can still use the ps4 controller for ps4 games on the ps5 so theres that. Theres not that many ps5 games yet anyways.

    Nelson SNelson S5 ore fa
  • Glad to know they took a problem with the PS4 and made it even worse

    Moribund PhoenixMoribund Phoenix5 ore fa
  • I have an Xbox series x, and I already have really bad controller drift on my left stick

    Devan TackettDevan Tackett5 ore fa
  • I always thought it was my nintendo switch joy on that was off.. apparently, it isn't just me.

    Seagull KRDBSeagull KRDB6 ore fa
  • Guys, just in case if Sony manages to Take the video Down, DOWNLOAD THE VIDEO AND REUPLOAD.

    Duwang KingDuwang King6 ore fa
  • 3:07

    infinitydruminfinitydrum6 ore fa
  • I have over 400hrs on my current dualsense, I haven't had any problems, maybe just chill on your joystick pressing.

    christian garciachristian garcia6 ore fa
  • Genshin impact, Sfv netcode and now this I think I am done with gaming. Companies are only disappointing me. I don’t want to support any of them.

    K FK F7 ore fa
  • You're lucky though. If Apple made the controller, it would be difficult to impossible to get the parts to repair with, and everything would be assembled with proprietary screws, adhesives, or melted plastic joins.

    MonkeyJedi99MonkeyJedi998 ore fa
  • I'm mad this trash costs 60 dolars now should be five or ten doalrs tops

    Vitor BilharinhoVitor Bilharinho8 ore fa
  • Breakdown of the controller seen first time feels like science proving how magic is impossible. It hurts my heart Put it together !!! Put it together !!

    Agent 47Agent 478 ore fa
  • The easiest fix is just replace the bad pot .... For instance I have a two year old Xbox controller with a bad horizontal pot on the left joystick the the other on the left and the two on the right were still good so when my year old Xbox controller I bought to replace is started drifting on the right stick vertical I just unsoldered the pot, just 3 connections and replaced it with one of the good ones I scavenged off the two year controller ..... Now I've been solder and desoldering for 40+ year so I can do it in my sleep but the entire process of tearing the controller apart, desoldering just the bad pot and soldering in the replacement and putting is all back together took about 15-20 minutes and I haven't had any drift problems in over 2 months ..... In my experience it is the pots that go bad not the mechanical part and they pretty much self calibrate if you take them apart and put them back together right ...... Some pots just wear out faster than others because the quality control just isn't that good because it's a 50 cent part ..... A premium Alps pot like in professional mixing boards, and I'm talking about the ones Alps actually makes and not just contracts from some plant in China, will cost you upwards of 50 bucks and I'm not sure they are available anymore ..... Most likely someone in China just bought the Alps name like so many other companies

    Long JohnLong John8 ore fa
  • Planned Obsolescence

    John RobackJohn Roback8 ore fa
  • I’ll keep this is mind when the ps5 actually comes out

    Ink RainsInk Rains8 ore fa
  • Moving parts wear down over time, big shock. This isn't a new problem and it has nothing to do with Sony. Just about every controller I've owned developed some kind of drift. I only noticed it after years of use. Once again this is just people on the internet with too much time on their hands looking for something to be angry about.

    jbulmerjbulmer8 ore fa
  • i just got my dualsense. 😨

    LondenTowerLondenTower9 ore fa
  • Lol noobs buying day one releases

    Mr. Bongs BurgHMr. Bongs BurgH9 ore fa
  • I never used to have any drift problems but in the last few years my controllers break after about a year

    lzlz10 ore fa
  • Don't have a PS5 yet... still rocking my trusty PS4, but this inherent weakness and the universal use of the same potentiometers in most mainstream brands is off putting, especially if this wasn't a thing in earlier machines, why was it not determined during testing and QA? Good video and loved the almost subliminal advertising of iFixit driver sets as the illustration props. Must buy iFixit driver set now!... ha ha

    puggawompypuggawompy10 ore fa
  • PS3 and Skyrim. I'm good.

    UnforgivenTruckerUnforgivenTrucker10 ore fa
  • I’m on my 4th PS4 controller with joystick drift now. It’s infuriating. I never drop them. I wash my hands even before using them and regularly inspect my controller. Yet it happens anyway. Never had the issue with my Xbox one controller. Only PS.

    AuralianAuralian10 ore fa
  • xbox is still worse

    frost_the_knightfrost_the_knight10 ore fa
  • My ps4 controller thinks it’s a 19 year old Honda Civic driver in a public parking lot

    SpaZzio On MarsSpaZzio On Mars10 ore fa
  • I think it’s a thing where console makers know about it it’s just they don’t wanna make them replaceable because they then lose out on controller sales 👀

    Justin HixonJustin Hixon11 ore fa
  • I’ve used my PS4 controller for 5 years and it still works perfectly

    Aiden McLaughlinAiden McLaughlin11 ore fa
  • *Laughs in PC Master Race*

    Vicarious VoyagerVicarious Voyager11 ore fa
  • just buy cheap 3rd-party gamepads

    Pyro-MolochPyro-Moloch11 ore fa
  • So that's why my character keeps looking around

    Rick Van DamRick Van Dam11 ore fa
  • As a labradoodle owner 5:27 made me laugh, they can never leave you alone lmao

    Jack RyanJack Ryan11 ore fa
  • I don't understand how fixing these is even worth it. I bought two ps4 controller from aliexpress *expecting* to get counterfits. Instead I got real PS4 controllers for 14 euro's a piece! This basically means that the cost of producing these controllers has probably always been below this price. It just seems like this is one of the places they make the most money off their users.

    mantenbrinkmantenbrink11 ore fa
  • Wait, I’ve never even owned a PlayStation and I never intend to. Why am I watching this?

    Kilo RenKilo Ren11 ore fa
  • Console peasants

    Samuel B. St-PierreSamuel B. St-Pierre11 ore fa
  • Dont you know. Controlled obsolescence, they want you to have to buy a new controller

    FintanFintan12 ore fa
  • I have a xbox and the new pads are great.

    chevalier knightchevalier knight12 ore fa
  • They drift? Doesn't even have a Ps5 yet

    emilkataemilkata12 ore fa
  • Good luck trying to get a hold of anyone at sony, their phone line just tells you they are too busy to take your call and hangs up on you.

    Mister CasualMister Casual12 ore fa
  • Tbh to avoid all of this you should just buy protective controller skins. There are a number of them that are about $10 and they look way better then the default PS5 skin anyway. They will also prevent them from getting discolored overtime. I bought some WITH my controllers at launch and haven't regretted it. They feel great, look great, and insure that my controller doesn't end up getting drift. The only way that could happen is if they wear out. But it never happened with previous controllers, so I don't see it happening now. The people reporting drift are more likely filthy handed cheeto dusters who have no concept of ownership and probably blame everyone else for there own mistakes.

    Jason AllcreatorJason Allcreator12 ore fa
  • Imagine owning a console.😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 My XP machine was more powerful than current consoles.😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

    Slyguy threeonetwonineSlyguy threeonetwonine13 ore fa
  • Sounds like to me we need a new potentiometer break through

    TremoriTremori14 ore fa
  • Honest question: If the DualSense is using the exact same joystick hardware, why is this "drift" suddenly being made into a major issue (class action lawsuit??) for Sony's new controller, when there was never a similar panic/over-reaction for the DualShock4, Xbox controller, Xbox Elite controller, or Nintendo Pro controller? It all just smacks of an effort to whip up some controversy over the PS5 when there really isn't one.

    JeffG 1013JeffG 101314 ore fa
  • Made in china.

    waaowcatlikewaaowcatlike15 ore fa
  • This is why i won't buy a ps5, brand new system and they are using parts from Ps4 controllers which obviously had stick drift issues. This shows that they don't care and will use crappy underrated components with prior issues. Knowing full well that people will experience problems with controllers. Forget buying a ps5, join the master race and buy a PC!

    Chris RoserChris Roser15 ore fa
  • Can you imagine paying $1000 just to get a controller that drifts? Let those consoles rot in the hands of scalpers!!!!

    Fernando QuemeFernando Queme15 ore fa
  • I found out the hard way on a nintendo switch pro controller they are such a pig to remove

    octy moctyocty mocty16 ore fa
  • Can we just get freaking optical joysticks or hall effect ones? It's 2021 ffs.

    BØLTBØLT16 ore fa
  • I always find it weird that I’ve never had problems with any controller even though I play a lot. Only one that I’ve ever got rid of was because a friend spilled coca-cola all over it

    Regan BranniganRegan Brannigan16 ore fa
  • I feel like the thrustmaster eswap controller has the right idea with the modular design. Price point is a little high though.

    Keenan TollettKeenan Tollett18 ore fa
  • because sony lol but awesome video super helpful

    Craig PowellCraig Powell18 ore fa
  • i just want a 3rd party ps5 controller . i never use the controllers sony provides and having to use it for the ps5 is just till i can get one from Nacon or Razer

    nomar marnomar mar18 ore fa
  • I wonder if this is a result of controllers using less voltage. I know with the Omron switches in mouses, they have a double click issue because of the lower voltage to increase battery life

    sounghungisounghungi19 ore fa
  • Why would they want to fix something that’s making them tons of money? Each controller is $70.

    Andrew GonzalezAndrew Gonzalez19 ore fa
  • Junk

    Joe MacJoe Mac21 ora fa
  • this is why I hate sony. my right adaptive trigger slightly broke it feels lose and not stirdy like my left one and it's a matter of time when are the joysticks gonna start drifting. FFS.

    Vane NaumovskiVane Naumovski21 ora fa
  • *4 options: use mouse and keyboard

    Daniel ArcherDaniel Archer21 ora fa
  • Sony taking a cue from Apple eh.

    Jackie LJackie L22 ore fa
  • I bought 4 different ps4 controllers within about 3 years.... oh sweet. ps5 is going to be the same......

    joshua lyonsjoshua lyonsGiorno fa
  • Remember: sony specifically designed the ps5 so you can only use the newest controller to play the newest games on ps5. No ps4 controllers will be allowed to work on the latest releases, despite the controller being almost exactly the same buttonwise. At least since the last time I read about it. They're charging $70 for just one of these. And they are far more likely to start deteriorating than most controllers released in the past. Sony is just ripping us off. This needs to stop.

    Samuel SolomonSamuel SolomonGiorno fa
  • I just like to thank the early buyers for being the beta testers, I'll wait for the updated version before getting one.

    mpa324mpa324Giorno fa
  • Yeah I replaced my joycons three times because all of them had drift, and also bought aftermarket controllers that had drift issues. I just refuse to use my switch anymore. Really defeating to spend all that money for essentially broken hardware, and i still am using the same Xbox 360 controller that I've had for literally 10 years, the only one. Travelled with me in my suitcase, backpack, generally abused over the years. Still works perfectly every single time.

    sissywizardsissywizardGiorno fa
  • planned obsolescence

    Fidel PerezFidel PerezGiorno fa
  • Reminds of when I bought a brand new PS4 controller and it stick drifted in a week

    Tazmania 77Tazmania 77Giorno fa
  • I'd say that's encouraging. I have probably 1000 hours on my ps4 controllers and they still work fine. Even just 400 hours out of a $75 device I'd say is reasonable. Although, being able to replace the sticks like he suggested would be a nice feature.

    NanoChadNanoChadGiorno fa
  • It makes soo much sense now why these controllers are soo expensive. They know they're gonna fail over a period of time. It's almost like the ink cartridge scam... This is just sad~

    BrandonBrandonGiorno fa
  • Wow they made that complicated to fix. I was happy to replace the joy sticks on my n64 controller. But yikes 90 bucks for my ps5 controller and in no time it will be trash :(

    daken howlettdaken howlettGiorno fa
  • If this isnt a reason to buy an xbox idk what is.

    Chandler TChandler TGiorno fa
  • I think the whole reason why they don’t take that in ovation is cuz a broken controller most likely for a less knowledgeable consumer like e who didn’t know about this till now (and has had this happen to my own controller) is cuz they’ll mostly go but a new one

    NVS4kNVS4kGiorno fa
  • As a wise man once said :“ it's evolving, just backwards”

    L6Rx_69L6Rx_69Giorno fa
  • Its all a scheme to buy a new controller. I have been a long user of ps i had the ps1 ps2 ps3 ps4 and i think im switching to xbox

    Chaldean KurdistaniChaldean KurdistaniGiorno fa
  • So, Sony just used whatever was lying around the shop when they built these controllers? Makes you wonder what other shortcuts they took liberties with, doesn't it?

    Aiden MacleodAiden MacleodGiorno fa
  • It's not til the end but... Pet the doggo and he won't go after your cheezits

    Jeremiah DeguzmanJeremiah DeguzmanGiorno fa
  • why am I wathcing all these PS5 videos, I dont even own a game console

    Mangos Tech CornerMangos Tech CornerGiorno fa
  • lol new analog keyboard switches are BETTER than the new ps5 controller

    AuxellAuxellGiorno fa
  • This is some universe level bullshit right here. He literally just said in his own video that PS4, Xbox one, Series X and PS5 all use the same joystick hardware. Then why only the PS5 has this issue huh? Did they throw common sense out the window?

    Sahil PSahil PGiorno fa
  • I hope y’all know this is always done on purpose. It’s a ploy to make even more money lol. Slight business secret

    More Art Than HumanMore Art Than HumanGiorno fa
  • I don't know what you people are doing with your controllers but i never had this problem. If its wonky within 2 years its still under warenty so you'll get a free replacement. After that just open it up and all i had to do is clean it. Airdust the mechanism under the sticks, some contact spray and finish off with a drup of wd40. Good as new. And ofcourse replace the silicone pads under the triggers. Hook up your controller to a read out program from time to time, see how little force it needs to go to 100% input. Manhandling your controller really isn't going to make you better at the game .

    J LJ LGiorno fa
  • Wow. This was very well explained. As someone who is only recently getting into electronic repairs, you were able to help me understand complex subject matter in just a few minutes. Thank you.

    Isak CadyIsak CadyGiorno fa
  • "After this research, it's bizarre to us that console makers don't consider joysticks to be consumable parts and design them to be easily replaced." Is it really? Obviously they make more money by forcing people to drop $60 on a whole new controller rather than allowing customers to easily swap out a cheap component to make them last longer.

    Keiichi81Keiichi81Giorno fa
  • "The PS5 has been out for a few months now" Has it? Pretty sure only like two of those things exist

    GyroScopeGyroScopeGiorno fa
  • laughing in mouse and keyboard

    Shinko666Shinko666Giorno fa
  • you think they dont realize how fast they break? and why they are so hard for the average person to fix? They know console pesants will just go and buy a new controller when it gets bad enough. Pc Master Race

    bongcrusha420bongcrusha420Giorno fa
  • What do you mean by drifting

    The infinite LoopdaedThe infinite LoopdaedGiorno fa
  • I always struggled to fully grasp how exactly drift happened. Usual explanations just mention occasional wear or dirt buildup. This was very informative!!!

    William Baratto ClosWilliam Baratto ClosGiorno fa
  • So if all the controllers(ps4, xbox one, switch pro) are using the same exact joystick hardware why is this mostly happening to just the ps5's controller

    MMGiorno fa
  • Suddenly, I am not so sad about not having a PS5, yet. But I deel deeply sorry for anyone that got ripped off.

    Coffee ProsecutorCoffee ProsecutorGiorno fa
  • This will only end when our lawmakers have the balls to pass laws imposing a larger minimum guarantee (lets say 10 years) to any electronic products sold

    Tlot PwistTlot PwistGiorno fa
  • They know they are consumable, they just act like they don’t to make more money

    Nonky NonkNonky NonkGiorno fa
  • I will stick to my ps4 slim 1tb with pride.

    Brian JacksonBrian JacksonGiorno fa
  • This doesn't explain the problem with the PS5 controllers. My PS4 and XB1 controllers took years to develop these issues. Both of my PS5 controllers are have issues after 5 weeks. If they use the same joystick internals, maybe something else is wrong.

    Tom ZTom ZGiorno fa
  • I had the same problem with my PS3 joystick. I never attempted the repair because of the labor and technical knowledge needed. Buying a replacement was the easiest fix but even after buying 2 replacement joysticks I still can't get the same feel and accuracy of my original joystick. I suspect this problem is a money cow for Sony thus they have no incentive to redesign the joystick.

    TheKen661TheKen661Giorno fa
  • Grow up and get a PC

    BoneZoneBoneZoneGiorno fa
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