The W124 Mercedes 500E was the world's most perfect sedan | Revelations with Jason Cammisa | Ep. 05

15 apr 2021
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There are a lot of misconceptions about the Porsche-built W124 Mercedes 500E, and Jason explains why the 500E and E500 was NOT a Porsche sports sedan with a Mercedes badge. First off, there's not a single Porsche part on the car.
Porsche Engineering Services helped with reengineering the W124's engine compartment to fit in the 32-valve, 4-cam M119 V-8 - for both the 400E and the 500E.
But the 500E doesn't use the same V-8 as the 500SL. It needed shorter connecting rods so that it fit in the same physical space as the 4.2-liter 400E - this way only one structural variant needed to be produced.
The 400E was a response to the Lexus LS400. Why do you think it wasn't called a 420E?
Porsche also did the engineering to bolt up wheels, tires, brakes, and suspension components from the wider and heavier R129 500SL and W124 500SEL. That necessitated fender flares so wide that the 500E didn't fit down the regular W124 production line in Sindelfingen.
For both models, Porsche performed the physical modifications to Mercedes-built W124 chassis, and sent them back to Sindelfingen for paint. The 400E remained there, but because of its width, the 500E was sent back to Porsche, which assembled the 500E at a second Zuffenhausen factory.
With Bruno Sacco's revolutionary looks, aerodynamics, obsession with safety, and Mercedes build quality and engineering might, the W124 was certainly among the best (and most expensive) sedans in the world.
Still is. It's close to perfect. But it's not a Porsche Sports Sedan.
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  • Great episode! But everyone knows the E39 M5 is the best sedan of all time ;)

    nomadbennomadben2 ore fa
  • The 1997 Volvo C70 T5 was the fastest FWD production car in the world 97-98 true or false ??. 1/4 mile : 14.1 seconds . So.. it means the 97 C70 T5 would pulverize a 2004 STI from speeds 60-150 mph ??? I read from Autocar Magazine that C70 T5 and Volvo 850R beated 3 Ferraris 50-75 mph punch . And from Autocar Magazine UK I read that Saab 9000 Aero beated 50-70 mph acceleration was faster than 5 Supercars including Lambo Diablo . Motorweek did 14 seconds the 1/4 mile Volvo C70 T5 . Video : Motorweek 1997 C70 T5 . So. The C70 T5 was faster than a SAAB 9000 Aero 50-100 mph ????? . A mechanic told me the 1997 C70 T5 was the fastest FWD car in the world 97-1999 . And he said faster than a SAAB 9000 Aero he said and also he said the 97 C70 T5 would smoke a 2004-2007 WRX STI on highway 60-150 mph . He said the 97 C70 T5 was faster than a Volvo 850R because it was made by a Racing Company in Sweden . Please can you race a Saab 9000 Aero vs 97-99 Volvo C70 T5 ( Manual as seen in Motorweek ) vs 2004-2007 STI ???? We wanna know if it's True that C70 T5 and Saab 9000 Aero were the fastest FWD cars on planet Earth . And from that if STI can beat them or not 60-120-150 mph . The mechanic is a Subaru/Toyota mechanic and he said C70 T5 would destroy even a Ferrari Testarossa or Nissan R34 . Can we see you Racing if that is true ??? Pleasssse

    Bigotes HombredemuchoValorBigotes HombredemuchoValor13 ore fa
  • He takes it up the tailpipe. Excellent video, nonetheless.

    RSC IIRSC II13 ore fa
  • BMW = "Big Mouthed Wop"??? "Bring My Wallet"??? "Bullshit Machine for Wankers??? " Either way, ONLY Mercedes-Benz & Porsche are Germans worth restoration costs!

    Luke SpectorLuke Spector16 ore fa
  • I don't know why I haven't seen this channel. This guy (Jason Cammisa) and Chris Harris are two of my favorite car reviewers.

    Sahadi420Sahadi42017 ore fa
  • W140 Guys: SHUT UP PLEASE SHUT UP THE W140 IS BETTER SHUT UP

    Shred72Shred7218 ore fa
  • RrrrrrrroadHouse!

    Eric LangleyEric Langley22 ore fa
  • Great piece!

    Matt HinesMatt HinesGiorno fa
  • Great video! How about a video on the 400E since it's not that talked about?

    kid 420kid 420Giorno fa
  • This host is so good!

    Hafiz SaniHafiz SaniGiorno fa
  • W124, the best of the best of the best...

    Lautaro SantanderLautaro SantanderGiorno fa
  • Neat copywriting. They don't make em like this anymore.

    Selçuk AkyüzSelçuk Akyüz2 giorni fa
  • this was THE car

    Jake WrightJake Wright2 giorni fa
  • The best thing is i have the one from 1991 and it has a more calm diving experience than the 2020 Mercedes

    Angel StoilkovAngel Stoilkov2 giorni fa
  • Stop watching once he put his finger in his nose, yak

    Ys SlmnYs Slmn2 giorni fa
  • Ben Affleck's brother knows a lot about cars.

    JesseJesse2 giorni fa
  • Ben Affleck in a chilled mode

    Stallone BhaiStallone Bhai2 giorni fa
  • What an absolutely beautiful car. I just picked up a 2007 280 with only 45,000 miles and it was a dr whom owned it. He sold it to me for insanely cheap! My son is 11 so I’m thinking about him and I customizing together then give it to him as his first car!

    Joshua BartleyJoshua Bartley2 giorni fa
  • What kinda tires were on that thing?

    Michael FMichael F2 giorni fa
  • I don't know why this popped up recommended. I want an airplane.

    VeryCleaverNameVeryCleaverName2 giorni fa
  • What a great review off to watch it again and again. ❤️

    Con VerdisCon Verdis2 giorni fa
  • Thanks Ben! 👍

    O KO K3 giorni fa
  • I remember my childhood time (1982), it was the best and most expensive car was 500 SEL and then came 560 SEL

    Al AmeriAl Ameri3 giorni fa
  • It's so heavy that it feels good to use in a bumpy road.

    Ice BlueIce Blue3 giorni fa
  • Also known as "The Factory Hammer"

    Michael OrekyehMichael Orekyeh3 giorni fa
  • Subscribed....

    HAPPIIEEEHAPPIIEEE3 giorni fa
  • Do you have any photos of the 500E and 993 together? That is the absolute perfect pair in existence, and I’d love to have that as a wallpaper

    mattyjbsrmattyjbsr3 giorni fa
  • ...and also , the world's ugliest sedan. Mercedes aesthetics suck..even today.

    Alex P.Alex P.3 giorni fa
  • It's more of a dictator/crime leader car.

    Burhan BudakBurhan Budak3 giorni fa
  • *laughs in M5*

    SotosM3 E30SotosM3 E303 giorni fa
  • 12:00 best designed, engineered, blah blah, sedan of all time? May I humbly present... BMW's E39 ('96-'03 5-series). I recall the auto journalists, commiserating with Mercedes after the E39 launch: "it must sting that, every time you release a model that gets a step ahead of the BMW, they come out with a new model that not so much moves the goal posts as literally hurls them over the horizon." My M5 is 21 years old now and I'm still waiting for a car of such beauty, performance, sound, interior, and quality to replace it with. Succeeding 5-series generations have been to big, the 3-series still seem down-market, and nothing is as beautiful.

    lqr824lqr8243 giorni fa
  • E28 review please? Frm Malaysia

    Christopher CharlesChristopher Charles3 giorni fa
  • 6:50 332HP from 5 liters? The E39 M5 got 400HP from that displacement, and could be increased to 500HP with kits. Anyone know if similar were available for this 500E?

    lqr824lqr8243 giorni fa
  • So what I understood is that if you have problems, run to Porsche

    Sabyasachi GhoshSabyasachi Ghosh3 giorni fa
  • 3:10 the arm did NOT remain parallel to the airflow throughout its sweep. What the heck are you saying this and why are you saying it? The picture fully contradicts you.

    lqr824lqr8243 giorni fa
  • The W124 was also called "Deutscher Panzer" (German Tank) because it never breaks. Our W124 which we had was the most reliable ever since today. Our Family also worked at Mercedes 3 generations. But what came at the 2000s was just an engineering shame.

    Hans WurstHans Wurst3 giorni fa
  • Wish you wouldn't say "Portia" about "Porsche."

    felsner1felsner13 giorni fa
  • European JUNK. Over priced, difficult to repair, expensive parts, pointlessly expensive to buy, not reliable, outdated, terrible resale value, petroleum based. NEVER buy european vehicles !...... or crystler for that matter. JUNK !

    Sloppy TurtleSloppy Turtle3 giorni fa
  • I always wanted to buy this car, the diesel one....and now I most likely will....God willing

    Em AreEm Are3 giorni fa
  • This dude reminds me of Adam Sandler. Good review btw and what a beautiful Benz. Coming from a bmw owner n54 engine twin turbo! I might need a Benz on my bucket list.

    Guillermo CarrilloGuillermo Carrillo3 giorni fa
  • This is Why Mercedes is my favorite car And for me to want that old car as my car right now in 2021 speaks volumes of this mammoth of a tycoon

    Hamza SadkaouiHamza Sadkaoui3 giorni fa
  • Needs daytons

    Colorado Cool KidColorado Cool Kid3 giorni fa
  • 11:49 Bro. Did you pee your pants or is that something else?

    MarcoNoPoloMarcoNoPolo3 giorni fa
  • The class of time, revolution succeed. Hats off for this video.

    Ather ZaidiAther Zaidi4 giorni fa
  • Good god this popped up and it is amazing quality made better due to nostalgia. But aside from that, this is on the level of, but more chill than top gear. I am not a car person but wow....

    turkeypazturkeypaz4 giorni fa
  • GREAT video and explanation thanks and what a car!!!!

    Simon FowlerSimon Fowler4 giorni fa
  • Does this one have the famous emission defeating devices fitted as standard or an optional extra...? Will rebates and or parts still be available when the EU finally collapses...? Personally, I think a Lexus or Toyota for me... Reliable and longevity built in, unsurpassed Japanese quality.

    Peteri DaviesPeteri Davies4 giorni fa
  • there is one sitting in the driveway next to my house for at least the pass 10 years. It breaks my heart every day as i have to walk pass it. Owner doesn't to sell!!!!!

    David WhiteDavid White4 giorni fa
  • Think if Mercedes today refurbish this car with the newer tech 🤯

    Ali RazaAli Raza4 giorni fa
    • Led headlights u know 😼

      Ali RazaAli Raza56 minuti fa
    • @robroy habich like a digital meter in it damnnn🤣

      Ali RazaAli Raza57 minuti fa
    • Newer tech? W124 had the right and most reliable tech

      robroy habichrobroy habich8 ore fa
  • I'm stunned by the production quality of this video. Here ... Take my sub.

    SersouSersou4 giorni fa
  • best sedan in the world and then booooooooommm bmw comes with the e39 m5

    Albin111Albin1114 giorni fa
  • So sad that sedans are vanishing today, giving place to all those ugly and stupid SUVs...

    André CataniAndré Catani4 giorni fa
  • I would 100% agree if I didn’t own the coupe version... Really such a great looking car from every angle!

    Matt's GarageMatt's Garage4 giorni fa
  • Loved my 1990 300E.... great car. The giant V8 in the 500 looks like a complete bear to work on.

    Trey ScudderTrey Scudder4 giorni fa
  • Nice video, thanks. I, myself, drive W124 3.2 Sportline 1995.

    Jason GoweserJason Goweser4 giorni fa
  • *cough* LS400 *cough*

    Clayton BridgesClayton Bridges4 giorni fa
  • Well you say "500E over cornered M cars" dear Jason, I watched Keiichi Tsuchiya (a.k.a DK) killed 500E with a 3.8 E34 M5 on the track. I agree W124 is a legendary car which 500E is even more legendary but E34 M5 is a better "sports car".

    Ozi YılmazOzi Yılmaz5 giorni fa
  • That grain filter on all the old footage looks really bad

    Simon ArdforsSimon Ardfors5 giorni fa
  • Jason, this is content you were born to create. Poor man’s Ryan Reynolds anyone? + as an enthusiast who came of age in the 90’s this car remains a pinnacle and I will boot myself for not buying one for 20k with 40000 miles

    J MillsJ Mills5 giorni fa
  • lovely driving this masterpiece

    ghetto journalist tvghetto journalist tv5 giorni fa
  • I worked at a Mercedes Benz dealership for over 19 years (starting in 1988). The500E was an awesome car and fun to drive. The video says no Porsche parts, but I remember standing at the parts counter as they ordered transmission parts from Porsche for a 500E. My friend who still works there had one. He always floored it when we went to lunch. Good times.

    Edward KokolEdward Kokol5 giorni fa
  • Gave the thumbs up just for the title

    alan Qtrmainealan Qtrmaine5 giorni fa
  • Thank you Mercedes-Benz for lobbying ($$$) U.S. congress in '88 and passing the Vehicle Safety Compliance Act.

    xnreyescjxnreyescj5 giorni fa
  • I love boxy car design

    Ghoosh WenGhoosh Wen5 giorni fa
  • Two words Vauxhalls lotus carlton.

    Andy HillsAndy Hills5 giorni fa
  • Perfect in the making, also for your mechanic

    Terence ChengTerence Cheng5 giorni fa
  • My Dad had the 300E 1986, He bought it brand new , This car is indeed the perfect 4 door sedan, built like a tank, straight 6 engine, german engineering at it's finest, very comfortable ride, My dad donated the car in 2015 with 267K miles . Lots of memories

    Cesar AbrahamCesar Abraham5 giorni fa
  • Haha silly video everyone knows the e38 was the greatest sedan

    dbernstein85dbernstein855 giorni fa
  • Best car video, lol

    Tony Curtis BlondellTony Curtis Blondell5 giorni fa
  • Cute dressing gown.

    Simon FSimon F5 giorni fa
  • Mercedes was the best by miles and miles ahead of anyone Now you can argue about it being still the best, but barely

    Mohammad Al FattalMohammad Al Fattal5 giorni fa
  • GO to the source- Buy a PORSCHE.

    Gene SmithGene Smith5 giorni fa
  • Great film. 400E and 500E are still gorgeous even today.

    Siddhesh MhatreSiddhesh Mhatre5 giorni fa
  • Very good video

    NUMENORLU DEMİRCİNUMENORLU DEMİRCİ5 giorni fa
  • No airbags. Instantly obsolete.

    no taboosno taboos5 giorni fa
    • w124 had airbags

      robroy habichrobroy habich8 ore fa
  • Mercedes today..Bring your wallet for repairs. Lexus reliability is far superior than Mercedes. If you love having your wallet raped. to FIT IN with the 1%....buy Mercedes and BMWs....and that is just for them to scan your vehicle with their special scan tools.

    LoneWolfSigmaLoneWolfSigma5 giorni fa
  • Perfect? That old automatic transmission alone makes it totally impossible.

    PistonburnerPistonburner5 giorni fa
  • It came up on the right side as proposition. Man ow man, it was so good that i just clicked full screen mode, sat back and watched to the last second. It reminded me of good old times of holy trinity, the top gear. Hats off.

    Sgt. TomSgt. Tom5 giorni fa
  • what if you got a popped tire? what then?

    marshallluckymarshalllucky5 giorni fa
  • I could not stop watching, very good job !

    AeRoTRAeRoTR6 giorni fa
  • It’s Right up there with the GOAT - Lexus Ls400

    josava1josava16 giorni fa
  • Very enjoyable video. Glad it came out of no where to Me. Feeling confident sitting in my Sprinter!

    Tim Tv PleaseTim Tv Please6 giorni fa
  • My all time favourite W123 and W124

    Parvez A K KhanParvez A K Khan6 giorni fa
  • This is great content man! Thank you.

    bozukbeyinbozukbeyin6 giorni fa
  • And then Lexus came with the LS400. Boy, were they upset at MB, Audi and BMW. But I do admit that the Kathedral (W140) demands respect

    Math is not for the faint of heartMath is not for the faint of heart6 giorni fa
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    Alisio RocchiAlisio Rocchi6 giorni fa
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    Tom CunninghamTom Cunningham6 giorni fa
  • Was...

    C SC S6 giorni fa
  • HAGERTY is the best channel on ITworlds

    Patriotic IndusPatriotic Indus6 giorni fa
  • An Italian obsessed with safety????? That must have been a one off.

    Mark LydonMark Lydon6 giorni fa
  • nope.

    sexphistosexphisto6 giorni fa
  • Well Done Hagerty!

    gRosh08gRosh086 giorni fa
  • I don't dispute its a great car, but really Mercedes fan boys.. You have to give credit where it's due, Porsche designed and engineered the engine and portions of the body, only Porsche and Audi has the most Le Mans wins, this engine won the PE Mans because it's a Porsche engineered engine not Mercedes. Between Merc, Audi and BMW.. Audi will forever have the better engines. Though this is an impeccable car but give credit where it's due honesty won't kill

    Khanya Luthando NgoboKhanya Luthando Ngobo6 giorni fa
  • You don’t know it in till you try it

    Al Ks MercedesAl Ks Mercedes6 giorni fa
  • Too bad the driving footage was shite, rigid mount the camera next time so people can appreciate body roll, etc..

    Norse Viking ÆsirNorse Viking Æsir6 giorni fa
  • Lol Derek Tamhyphen Scott lol

    nestoavilanestoavila6 giorni fa
  • I want to see it in an actual wind tunnel and come up with that coefficient of drag.

    Norse Viking ÆsirNorse Viking Æsir6 giorni fa
  • One of my favorite cars ever!

    mercedesbenzformula1mercedesbenzformula16 giorni fa
  • drove the w124 300e for college. Brilliant and still holds up but be prepared for insane bills.

    Hemo A.H.Hemo A.H.6 giorni fa
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